When we hear modern reports of genocide or the murder of dozens or scores of innocent civilians regardless of who the perpetrators were, we feel a sense of disgust and outrage. When we hear about this level of murder in previous times in history, it is harder to connect with the level of organised evil that it takes to achieve systematic murder. It is still harder when we consider modern institutions still around today are actually responsible for these historical atrocities.
Generations have had their minds systematically poisoned against my church through organised slander. Up until now I have only felt the effects of this slander. I had a family member state quite vitriolically ‘I’ll never go to your church because it’s a cult’. Another, (a Eucharistic minister) ‘I can’t look at even one scripture with you because it would make you think you have something to teach me about God’. Another Eucharistic minister publicly called me a ‘sneeky bast**d’ at a large family gathering. Another time someone refused to shake my hand at a family function. I’ve been told by family members that other family members with a very negative view of the church had been talking to them about my church. Others have told me my marriage is not right before God due to being performed outside the Catholic Church and that illnesses I have are as a result of my church being cursed. Recently I became much more aware of how this slander works and who is behind it. In one conversation a very wise woman once asked me: ‘James, what’s the difference between your church and the Catholic Church?’ (she’s a family member from a Catholic background).
‘So there’s a short answer that demonstrates the difference very well’ I replied. ‘Up until the 1520s the Roman Catholic Church was executing people from my church. After the 1520s up until the 1660s both the Roman Catholic church and the Protestant churches (Lutherans, Church of England etc) were executing people from my church. When the Roman Catholics got into power they executed Protestants and people from my church. When the Protestants got into power they executed Catholics and people from my church. People from my church never executed Catholics or Protestants. That is a very good indicator of the main difference between our church and the Catholic Church. We don’t murder people because of what they believe about baptism’.
“Well.. there are worse things than murder” she smoothly interjected and proceeded to tell me about how a certain disabled person had been abusively treated as a child. I was pretty much aghast that such a high-end professional working in the caring services could so easily dismiss thirteen centuries of church/state organised torture and theocratic murder in the name of God.
In addition to murder and torture, there is also the forced mass movement of people to consider when examining the difference between my church and her’s. These displaced people are called refugees in modern-day language. When one understands that the pagan Roman state, the Roman Catholic Church, the Orthodox church and the reformed Protestant Church forced mass migration of people in sects, one sees the true nature of those churches. Again the ‘sects’ believing the gospel my church teaches, did not force Catholics, Protestants or Orthodox people to flee their homes and give up their possessions. Displacement was often due to their fleeing physical persecution and execution and sometimes simply a pogram. We understand then, that not only did the Roman Catholic Church persecute people from my faith to death but also caused them to have to leave their homes and seek a new life elsewhere. After sects started to use the printing press in the late 1400s, to copy their beliefs and the accounts of their executions, it became much harder for the Catholics and Protestants to hide the details of the answers of my brothers and sisters, to their interrogators, during the trials. The reason for the persecutions became much clearer.
As my short debate with the lady developed, she wanted a more modern explanation of the difference. I proceeded to explain the difference between good people, bad people and godly people (defining ‘Godly‘ specifically as people imitating Jesus’ version of God). Without going into that whole argument yet, suffice to say that it is godliness, that led to the execution for one’s beliefs in the specific cases that I was citing prior to 1660. But persecution continued after the 1660s and again religious people from different denominations, including Roman Catholic have been the perpetrators.
The sects who have shared the gospel that I believe and that is taught by my church, have in every century been executed for that belief and for trying to help both good and bad people embrace that belief. In the 1990s, I have had brothers murdered in Russia, Pakistan, Iraq, the Middle East and North Africa to my own personal knowledge. As well as this, many of my sisters in India have been beaten with rods and in several cases had gasoline poured over them and set on fire. In many other cases young women in my church have been kidnapped by their families and taken away sometimes never to be seen again. But others who have escaped or been allowed to come back to their home city were able to rejoin the church and tell how they refused to give up their faith in spite of being held against their will in far away places.
In addition to this, our church members in the USA and UK have had family members take them to remote locations and paid certain individuals trained and practiced in bias interrogation methods to try to pressurise them into giving up their faith. In Ireland, a Mennonite named Michael Garde. operates as one such consultant. His methods have meant he has avoided appearing in court cases involving allegations made in the US media to give evidence to support his claims about the religious people he attacks in his line of work. I personally attended one of his interrogations in the city of Cork in the Republic of Ireland in 2001. He was working together with a journalist in this meeting and the family of a member of my church (using tried and tested inquisitorial skills). I brought my mother as a witness to this meeting. She observed, so very clearly, how he manipulated information and only allowed me to share about negative experiences that I had in my church. When I tried to give context to these experiences and my relationships with the people who I had those experiences with to discuss forgiveness and reconciliation, he quickly moved the conversation to a more negative person in the group, the journalist. He sought to intensify the nature of the negative information rather than hear my understanding and interpretation of the situation. My mother (still a practicing Roman Catholic to this day) spoke to me about 24-hours after the meeting telling me that it was one of the worst run meetings that she’d ever been in. She also disclosed that she had seen priests at the time of my conversion in 1990 and considered having someone question me. Thankfully my observation of Garde’s methods meant I was subsequently able to accurately advise and protect other members going into meetings with him. This is the nature of modern persecution in Western countries. In 2000, Michael Garde’s wages were paid for by the four main churches in Ireland. Those were the Roman Catholic Church, the Church of Ireland, the Presbyterian Church and the Baptist Church. Mr Garde has been educated in the main institutions of these churches over many years. Though he himself is a Mennonite (a church that (unlike their ancestors, the Anabaptists) does not practice baptism for the forgiveness of sins), during my meeting with him he would not go into his own personal doctrine regarding salvation and baptism. Though he is a Mennonite, he does the bidding of the four main churches in Ireland in terms of trying to extract members from my church using coercive methods. Murder, torture and church/state execution and pogroms won’t fly in modern day Ireland but what we see is that as always, the Roman Catholic Church and Protestant churches will do whatever they can get away with in terms of persecution of believers holding to scriptural, adult believer’s baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
Michael regards my church and the former movement that I was in, as cults. There is no mention in his meetings, of 13 centuries of church-state murder and torture. He seems to have no awareness that he is being used by the same organisations to persecute the same people that they have always persecuted. This is the modern Inquisitor. He is called an Exit Counsellor. The Roman Catholic church and the Protestant churches now outsource their inquisitions. Michael is a professional, spiritual, modern day executioner protected by law from revealing evidence to back up his claims. This is a legal ruling involving him from 18.10.2012.
‘In Mr. Garde”s case, whilst not a journalist per se, his activity in educating the public about religious cults meant that he was similarly protected from disclosing his sources.’
At the time of my meeting with him, Michael Garde worked together and was influenced by the Dominican priest, Father Louis Hughes OP (Order of Preachers). Members of the Dominican order have a long history of genocidal murder against my church (named examples at the bottom of the page). It does not surprise me to find them still involved in modern times.
Hughes writes as follows, quoted by Garde,
‘ The cults we hear most about are new religious movements. While these are the main focus … it should be noted that there are also psychological, political, commercial, and New Age and science fiction cults that control their members’ lives no less ruthlessly. While concerns are most often expressed in connection with new religious movements, problems can also be found within groups claiming association with mainline religions.’
Father Hughes OP, is portrayed as a very knowledgeable and experienced wise man of the Catholic Church. He has his own YouTube channel nowadays and sells guided meditation CDs.
Hughes description of cults and cultism could easily describe St Patrick’s college in Armagh, the grammar school where I was sexual abused by the Roman Catholic priest, Arthur McCrory. By Hughes’ definition the school itself as a secular organisation still being run by a priest, Father Kevin Donaghey, when I contacted them in 2014, has still not opened an investigation to make sure all the victims of Arthur McCrory have a chance to come forward. Mike Garde does work with Schools in Ireland (see above picture) but it is not to point out that the schools themselves are cultish! Justice and healing (the ultimate goal of an investigation) has been provided through the Vincentian Order (that formerly ran St Patrick’s) for a very small number of people who had to fight to be heard, but there has been no open apology, no open involvement of the board of governors and no acknowledgement to the Alumni that there is an openness to investigation. There have been public enquiries even in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland but no detailed investigation involving St Patrick’s college. In the same way the Roman Catholic priest Father Joseph Houghton from Malin in County Donegal has not been investigated. This is in spite of the fact that I discovered that he abused my late father and have reported it to the police, the late Bishop Edward Daly and the Banbridge enquiry that closed in 2017. In fact, my mother reported it to Bishop Daly in the early 1970s but he did nothing and couldn’t remember anything when I brought it up with him. There are open secrets in a number of parishes about Houghton’s activities with young men during this time in the diocese of Derry. These are just two cases touching on my own life where the Catholic Church and its satellite organisations like schools and training colleges look like a cult. I have seen neither of the experts, Mike Garde or Father Louis Hughes involved in trying to set up an organisation to look into this cultish behaviour (but we understand Mike and Louis are employees of the Catholic church as such). I refer to the lack of investigation by all those good Catholic people who are still alive today. I refer to all those good priests that are still alive today. I refer to the police. I refer to the enquiries and the inquirers who have conducted the enquiries.
Michael Garde was also backed by the late Father Martin Tierney (a founder of the Catholic Charismatic movement in Ireland) and an author of books and newspaper articles about cults in Ireland. Father Tierney was also involved in the Beginning Experience, a movement that’s focus is on people who have experienced loss. The homily at his funeral mass said little of his work trying to get my brothers and sisters to recant their faith and instead praised him for ‘never inquiring what a person believed in’ and stating that he was ‘a foremost prophetic voice’ in Ireland! Others who knew him well said ‘his great charism was for evangelisation’. Of course these are all the remarks of those religious persons who agreed with Martin’s theology. Those he persecuted will of course see him differently.
Though Garde is not Irish, both Tierney and Hughes are Irish men. This trinity of persecutors are supported financially by Ireland’s big churches. The proclamation of the Irish Republic in 1916 included the statement ‘The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty.. of the whole nation and of all its parts’. This should mean that Irish men and women like myself and my brothers and sisters should be free regarding, not only which church to join, but also to practice our faith and seek to share it through prayer and bible study with any interested parties without being hounded by men like Garde, Hughes and Tierney. These men urinate on the graves of those who died for Irish freedom in every generation! In light of the renewed pledge to bring about a Republic of the whole 32 counties what kind of country would this be where agents of the Catholic Church can persecute smaller churches with impunity.
When I got a chance to speak again during my short debate with the party I mentioned, I was challenged for having a very arrogant world view. I responded to this claim by showing how arrogant it was, to sweep away thirteen centuries of church-state organised murder as being a lesser form of suffering. These people were in my church. These people were murdered by people in her church. Often when people are considering Catholics murdering members of the sects prior to 1660 there is a disconnect with the modern Catholic Church. This disconnect I think, is born out of the fact that people perceive the Popes, monks and priests in 1660 and before to be anointed men, men of the cloth and Holy men. There is a verse in the Gospel of John which highlights, the true nature and description, of an organisation of men teaching a false baptism and at the same time, murdering groups of people who teach a correct baptism. Jesus puts it very well.
John 10:1
“I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.
Here Jesus refers to those who try to enter into the church in the wrong way as common criminals. First he uses the word thief depicting the deceitful man who under cover of darkness or distraction, skillfully takes away the property of other men. This is one form of stealing. It is a common petty kind of crime. The next word that is used is robber. As Father Louis Hughes OP put it, this is a ‘ruthless’ man who uses force, face to face, to ‘control’ someone and intimidate and violently remove property from a weaker or more passive individual. These are the kind of criminals that Jesus uses as an analogy for people who teach and propagate the incorrect entry method into God’s Kingdom. Once one realises that the Popes who signed the execution orders or setup up the executioners with their power and the religious orders of monks and priests who carried out these orders, are men who are nothing but common criminals, I believe one can start to remove the disconnect in the mind of modern Roman Catholics. There is a mindset and a way of thinking that stops people from being able to take responsibility. It is true that various Popes in recent decades have made apologies specifically for these “brothers” (or as Pope John Paul II called them, ‘sons and daughters of the church’) who were criminals in previous centuries. It is very difficult even for modern Popes to be able to condemn previous Popes as criminals however. Of course most people can see the difference between an apology that says ‘sorry that you felt that way’ and an apology that deals with the root cause. There is no mention in the apologies of the modern Popes of the reason why those people were killed. They were killed because of their teaching on baptism. That is the truth of the matter.
Average members usually do nothing.
To understand the barbarity and severity of the persecution of sects by the Roman Catholic Church it is important to understand the ‘Pagan Flood’ and the fact that the ‘Roman’ Catholic Church simply perpetuated the practices of the ‘Roman’ pagans in terms of the execution of Christians. The Pagan Flood was not a result of a wave of repentance across the Roman Empire but simply a wave of realisation that Christianity was a favoured religion within the Empire and there were certain benefits to being able to call oneself a Christian once this religion was made popular by the Emperor. The edict of Milan, not only gave Christianity a favourable position amongst the religions practiced by the Romans but it also ordered all land, property and monies to be given back to such people from whom it had been confiscated making many Christians wealthy again. In some places pagan temples were given to Christians and this explains why the Roman Catholic Church developed a system with an altar at the front and a conference style seating as this was the traditional setup of pagan temples. Indeed the church under the watchful eye of the Emperor, ordered that worship should be conducted in a much more lavish way. Once one realises that there was a huge trend in Roman society to become nominal christians then it is possible to also understand why the leaders of the Roman Catholic church became so barbaric in their treatment of people who they regarded to go against their authority. This also left the vast majority of Roman Catholic nominal christians in slavery, up until today, to the decisions of the leaders that they had put their faith in. Since at least the 800s Roman Catholics recite a corporate mantra including the words ‘We believe in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church’ at every Mass they attend. I did for my first 21 years. When the Catholic church became responsible for the deaths of Orthodox Believers over the centuries, who were separating themselves from the Roman Church, nominal catholics were forced by their submission to their leadership to accept and join in the persecution. The vast majority of Roman Catholics did little or nothing to prevent the recurrence of these waves of executions over 13 centuries. Indeed the reaction was so poor that modern-day Roman Catholics clearly feel no guilt or responsibility regarding these executions. In certain countries at certain times the law expressly forbade Catholics to do so. Most people that I have spoken to are able to sweep them aside very easily. When I say sweep them aside, I want to be clear that the fact that these executions were propagated by both Catholics and Protestants is itself evidence that both of these religions saw these people, their books and their teachings equally, as a threat. They were killed because of their teachings. Their doctrine of salvation. Many modern Catholic theologians use a mixture of Catholic dogma and overspiritualisation of simple doctrinal truths that distract Catholics from asking questions about the difference between their salvation doctrine and that of other churches. Francis Hogan (who has spoken in recent conferences (1 minute example) alongside Louis Hughes) is one such teacher. In the section linked in the 1 minute from 11.47 to 12.47, she minimises the task of holding firmly to doctrines (1 Tim 4:16), guiding Catholics instead to look for deeper meaning in a higher spiritual plain (as if these two things were at odds). This position discourages Catholics from seriously looking at alternative doctrines of salvation (of which there are actually not that many in the world today). To the rational observer then, it is clear that the Pagan Roman policy of murdering true Christians (who they called Aethists), was continued by the Roman Catholics and the Reformation did not reform that practice as Protestants kept up a body count that would have been the envy of the Antichrist Emperor Nero himself!
The army of Martyrs of my church (murdered by the Romans, then Catholics and then Protestants) scream in agony across the centuries, amid the burning faggots, from beneath the rivers and ponds in the cloth bags they were drowned in, from the prisons where they were held until they could give birth before their executions, from the chopping blocks where their heads were removed, from the doors of their private inner closets from where they were forced to flee, from the dusty road of Exodus, from the amphitheater flung through the air on the sharp end of an angry bulls horns, from the torture chamber they scream ‘Jesus is Lord!’ ‘Our only crime was to believe’. ‘Study the Bible’. ‘They are deceiving you’. ‘They are thieves and robbers’. ‘Open your eyes!’
A few of the very many accounts of Dominicans and Popes directly involved in the murder of Christians.
Dominican Monks (note how the Anabaptists historians name the enemies when the have their identity)
Reinerius 1280 Conrad of Marburg 1214 Conrad Dorfo and his disciple John 1251 Peter Caderita and William Colonicus 1270 Ramond Cabasse DD 1417 Two unamed Dominican friars cross examine 1527 Two unamed Dominican friars cross examine 1538 Two unamed Dominicans cross examine husband of pregnant wife (both imprisoned) 1551 Unamed Dominican monks 1559
Popes
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